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IN-CJ exists to enable conversations to take place about international criminal justice. This podcast is one of a series about the challenge posed to leaders by the COVID-19 crisis. The people working in the criminal justice system at the frontline are facing unique issues in keeping services going and protecting the public. It follows that their leaders are also facing unique challenges. John Scott wants to find out how leaders and organisations are responding to COVID-19. It is a chance to share experiences and problems, but also to hear stories about creativity and changes. How are you responding to ‘The Covid19 Leadership Challenge?’ Willem van der Brugge, Secretary General, Confederation of European Probation (CEP).